What is that rifle?!? And what’s it chambered for!?! Why, that looks just perfect for the well accoutred recreational stubfart! Hmmmmm…it’s almost certainly a piston gas gun… ya think a fella could get away with running cast lead in it? I’d worry about the bullet lube fouling the ports, personally… but I’d have to check on that. I’d have to have at least six mags for it. The shells…they’re too big to be .30 Carbine I think…
Of course, a well made watch and a fashionable hat… and a fella’s ready for a day afield.
351 winchester model 07ReplyDelete
Looks like a Winchester. .351 caliber I think. Turn of the century timeframe.ReplyDelete
351 winchester model 07ReplyDelete
The folding money is too new, other than that, yep.ReplyDelete
It's a Winchester SLR chambered in .351Winchester. It's a straight blowback action, pre-WWI manufacture. A really nice rifle.ReplyDelete
Winchester Model 1907 chambered in .351 Self Loading. There were 20 round mags available.ReplyDelete
It's a Winchester Model 1907. It was chambered in Winchester 351, which is what the box says if you enlarge the picture. It's a blowback operated semi-auto, not a piston actuated, and designed for cast lead projectiles. It's a low power cartridge, but enough for deer hunting and ammo is available, although sort of rare.ReplyDelete
Hey thanks for dropping in, ASM. But - isn't that a gas tube underneath? If not... what is it...?Delete
that is the charging handle/device.Delete
one of my uncles had one of those rifles. used it for deer huntingReplyDelete
don't know what happen to it after he died though.
but I remember seeing hanging on his wall back in eastern KY.
when I was a kid in the 1960's up to the last time I was there a few years before he passed on in the 1990's
he also had a browning auto 5 shotgun too.
A Browning humpy back shottie? The man was obviously the last word in refinement and sophistication. Surly he must have carried an elegant handgun too...?Delete
not sure. don't remember seeing one around. he might have had in his bedroom or something.Delete
I think the cartridge is the Winchester .351 Self Loader and the rifle is a Winchester model 1907.ReplyDelete
Winchester Model 1905/7/10, Winchester produced a series of self-loading sporting rifles to compete with the Remington Model 8. Where the Remington was a clever and complex design, the Winchester approach was basically one of brute force. The Winchester rifles were chambered for .32 and .35 caliber straight-walled rounds which developed much less velocity than the Remington line – around 1400fps (although the Winchester 1907 was used the larger .351 Winchester round, and the 1910 model the even larger .401 Winchester round). By using lower powered ammunition, Winchester was able to design the 1905 as a simple blowback action, using a large weight inside the handguard fixed to the bolt.ReplyDelete
Good stuff, PF! The ballistics on this thing leave me charmed; at close range, with a heavy enough boolit... those kind of velocities and ballistics will do just fine on medium and small game. I would love to have one and reload for it. I wonder if brass can be bought for it from the specialty houses?Delete
I found a recipe for it in an old Cartridges of the World.Delete
180 gr cast boolet, 19 gr, 2400 powder- 1870 FPS
180 gr cast boolet, 20gr, 4227 powder- 1840 FPS
Brass used to be had at RCC brass although I think they are out of business.
Go to Starline Brass and order the .360 Dan Wesson. Simply trim it and size it.
The .360 DW is a lengthened .357 Magnum with a modified web.
This would be a nice brush gun. Light recoil.
It's a model 1907 Winchester in .351 Self Loader chambering.ReplyDelete
Glen, I'll reckon that isn't a gas tube but the charging "handle". You can find someone that has brass for it. I had a buddy with a Winchester 38-56. THAT is a rare duck indeed. He found an Aussie that made brass out of 50-110 brass or some such. He had some old balloon head brass.ReplyDelete
Well I’ll be damned…so…ya push on that thing to cycle the action then? I don’t see a cocking handle anywhere so maybe that makes sense? Gawd…I’d love to see one up close…Delete
That push rod was just to load a round into the chamber. Once fired, it became an autoloader. The Winchester 63 .22lr autoloader is much the same way. In fact, the resemblence between the two is strong.Delete
This firearm was used extensively in the AMC series THE SON, a show about a 19th turn of the century oil tycoon protecting his kingdom in south Texas. The only place I've seen this rifle shown in action - cool rifle !
Yea, the Browning patent on the charging lever had yet to expire. A copy of the Auto-5 ( Winchester? )had knurling on the barrel for the same reason, you needed to charge it by pulling back the entire barrell.Delete
Man, I am for liking this! This is one of those pics you can smell.ReplyDelete
351 Many used as prison guns. Cartridge was later used to help develop the M1 carbineReplyDelete
Looks kinda like the new Henry Homesteader 9mm rifle. It holds a few different pistol mags that I think is interesting but I don't think it's a very useful rifle. I'd rather have one of those Winchesters.ReplyDelete
If you got stuck in a light urban environment, this would be handy.ReplyDelete
The 351 was a good close range deer gun. The 401 was the choice of Texas Department of Corrections for wall guard guns. They kicked real good but ammo was hard to find in the 60s. Still see them some at the Texas gun shows.ReplyDelete