The Wagner group is getting alot of press in the Kraine conflict. They just encircled Bakmeht and the Russian cauldron is beginning to bubble.
My question is... why? Why are the Russians putting the musicians front and center...?
Consider - in the real world, Russia has enough military horse power to eat the Kraine for breakfast. Poland and Germany would have been a nice light snack. Granted... holding them indefinitely would be another matter entirely... but you get the idea. I am hearing their goal now is a standing army of around 1.5 million with a little over a third of that positioned in the Kraine.
Why would you need the Wagner mercenaries with that kind of firepower? One thing I learned about Putler is that he never does anything without a reason...and that the guy plays 5 dimensional chess. He is playing Biden like a strativarius and the clowns dance to Putler's tune. What does he get out of using mercenaries?
First NATO. Second They are getting the job done. Third there is a lot more going on in the battle front and keeping the Wagner Group in the forefront makes the Elites ther is also a Russian Army
ReplyDeleteWifus interuptus.. ***makes the Elites forget there is also a Russian Army.***
Deletemost of the Russian military is conscripted. It takes a declaration of war for them to be utilized outside the country.
ReplyDeleteBut the 4 oblasts are not part of Ukraine anymore. They could fill eastern Ukraine (now part of Russia), with troops without leaving Russia.
DeleteMaybe keeping the Tier 1 troops in reserve, waiting for the Juggalos to get us fully into the war?
ReplyDeleteSimplest answer I can think of (and simple is what I am...): Soldiers sign up to fight - if necessary. Mercs sign up to fight - period. Why should Putin put Russian sons on the line if there are others who really WANT to be out there getting shot at? If the mercs (and the local militias) can carry the fight to the Ukes, then let them, and hold the regular Russian forces in reserve in case the US/NATO lunatics finally go too far and the threat to Russia becomes too much to tolerate and WWIII kicks off.
ReplyDeleteThat right there is the actual reason, avoid the blowback and sand in the gears that comes with any military draft, and the loss of citizen support for the defensive response. If the mercs can cross the Dnieper and hold it from the N border to the sea, regular army will be deployed to secure the rear areas first and then to the front, to push on to Kyiv if need be. Then, army engineers to begin rebuilding.
DeleteThat, my friend, is a very fine observation. I don't like to refer to the guy as Putler as to me it is disrespectful. Just my shithouse opinion. To me, he'll tie up the Ukraine, observe the results and smear a salve of occupation. After that, they'll just want to be left alone. Like the rest of us. It's their world. We gotta let them live in it.
ReplyDeleteIn point of fact... I am doing my best not to LIKE Putin... and failing. That guy has legitimate gripes, he's been an excellent statesman and leader... and he's made a mockery out of fags like Joe Biden, Bitch McConnell, Lindsay Graham, and the entire American Globohomo machine. Putler is one of those insults that just begs to be taken away from the cretins that invented it, and owned and used against them. Kinda like the way the "deplorables" did with Hillary Clinton.
DeleteAlso, as far as mercenaries go, reach for every tool in the drawer. These mercs knew the job was dangerous when they took it.
ReplyDeleteI assume General Asshat is big mad.
ReplyDeleteHow much Wagner stock does he own?
ReplyDeleteBut seriously, 1) they're effective, and 2) they're not "The Russian Army", so sending condolence letters back to parents and wives isn't as much of an issue. Pretty much the same reason Blackwater and other mercs rode herd on convoys in the sandbox. ( I especially liked the Tongans. They're good people. Group prayer before every mission.)
Kadyrov and the Chechens were front-and-center during the seige of Mariupol last Summer. Afterwards they were sent rearward. Once Bakhmut is mopped up Pirogzhin and the Wagners will be sent rearward as well. Expect to see Kadyrov and the bearded ones back in the news this Spring.
ReplyDeleteProblem I see is what's happening down the road timewise. Russia is on a slide losing population. With men leaving to escape mobilization and deaths in Ukraine combined with birth rates below replacement rates, Russia may well lose population at a rate greater than one percent per year. In twenty years with a population of eighty million or so Russia is going to lose land to China and who's know else. Sorta reminds me of the monkey trap.Monkey sticks his hand in but cant get His hand out because he won't let the prize go.
ReplyDeleteHello General Asshat!
DeleteMercenaries don't adhere to the Geneva Conventions. If they run into a bunch of "Ukronazis" who give up--nothing stops the mercs from executing them en masse. Plus there may be some aspect of pay back as the Ukrainian army did some pretty non-Geneva Convention things to Russian POWs, filmed it and distributed it on social media.
ReplyDeleteThat is kinda what I am thinking Favill; some of these Uke players are really, really nasty customers... and they will need to be dispatched by nasty people using nasty means.
DeleteHe can turn the Globohomo tactics back on them - when they come after Russia for all the fake war crimes and genocides... the fake courts, lawyers and lawfare will get the finger and told to go talk to Wagner Corporate... and they are right into black ops and wetwork. The jewish grift and legal sausage machines won't even get in the door...
A slow burn fuse to WWIII?
ReplyDeleteWe've been in WWIII since 2012.
DeleteAnother reason is that Wagner (and the other PMCs everyone forgets are out there) aren’t locked into a specific war fighting doctrine. They can tinker with different approaches to the changing combat environment (drones, EW, systems coordination, anti-drone guns, etc.) and identify “new” combinations that are more effective. These can be replicated until the West comes up with a counter. Repeat the process. I’m more impressed by how the Eastern side coordinates effectively four different militaries (militia, conscripts, contract soldiers and PMCs) to try to optimize each group’s strengths and limitations
ReplyDeleteYevgeny Prigozhin owns the Wagner Group. Guess his religion.
ReplyDeleteI'm thinking, that in addition to the bennies he gets, pointed out above, he gets tons of max experienced trainers.
ReplyDeleteThe Wagner Group sounds like they're in the advanced infantry/Marine/special forces spectrum of forces.
I'll bet the Blackrock crew never catches up to the Wagner crew for experience.
Aren't some of those Wagner Group guys convicts released for duty? I remember when Cuba turned their prisons loose on us. I can close my eyes and still see the poster in the county jail describing the tattoos Cuba used to identify the crimes they committed. If they are reducing their prison budget by sending them to the meat grinder, it's a win win.
ReplyDeleteDouble plus, they are depleting post-industrial nations of their war supplies without losing their front line troops and gear. If they field 3,000 retrofit T-62s, How many AT weapons will Uke have? Targets for everyone, then no ammo for anyone. The US is depleting stocks that take years to replace.
".... here I am, stuck in the middle again...."