I don't care if I get dragged out n beaten to a bloody green pulp. Ape hangers are just plain gay, and that's the end of it. I will tolerate no dissention on this topic. And as for this particular doofus - either keep the bitch seat or lose it, but if yer gonna keep it then the saddle should be a one piece pillion style affair. And fer gawdsake do something about those pipes!