There’s nothing wrong with this vid - except for the kid lying through his teeth about the temps he’s out camping in. You can camp out in temps like that, but you’re talking insulated bib coveralls with layers underneath, a heavy sleeping bag, and wrapping up almost like a mummy. In -30C you need heavy mitts, and to cover your face. He doesn’t even have much of a reflector set up for the fire. You sure as hell wouldn’t be lounging around with your bare face and hands exposed like that.
Maybe the kid is trying to massage his ego by posing as some kind of hard rock? Just looking at it… I’d be surprised if the temps were half that… say -15C. I pooped in the comments and told the little bugger off! There is a duty of care in these things, and telling folks they can go out in temps like that without the proper gear borders on criminal negligence as far as I’m concerned. Cold weather camping is not something you want to try unless you know what you are doing.
I remember a couple of years ago reading a bushcraft oriented web page, one of the frequent posters stated that according to his experiments, fire reflectors weren't all that effective. His explanation was that rather than heat did not reflect sideways that well, it instead rose into the atmosphere, doing very little good to the camper.
His fellow forum members gave him hell for that (I've camped in sub zero temps many a time and there IS a difference with a reflector). The original poster was stubborn though, and he convinced a few that he may have been correct. They then began to argue what was the optimum distance the reflector had to be away from the fire.
I say reflectors are a big enough deal to make them worthwhile too. For me it isn't even a question. If I am camping in one spot for an extended stay I would put one up.
I noticed in his comments on his own video he stated that there were grizzly and black bear (both) in the area. That would be pretty unusual as when the grizzly move in the black bear normally move out (or become part of the protein supply for the grizzly bears).
my brother and I camped out in -15F in an adirondack lean to. I had a $9.99 sleeping bag rated to 40F. we spent the evening cutting and burning wood. Nearly froze to death, but survived. So this young guy is probably telling the truth,
There's a couple other tells too - that is wet snow with big flakes that is falling. At -30C your snow gets very dry... and when you step on snow that cold...it kinda squeaks in a way that's like fingernails on a chalkboard - it sends chills down your spine just to listen to it...
A few good tricks; several flaws that I had fun watching chicakgos go through. That method of melting snow at those temps can cause more problems than solve. Point made by others about temps,snow accurate. No one pointed out wood pile going to bed versus getting up.
I have read some old stories about the RCMP working in extreme cold, and getting frostbit lungs just from breathing in the cold air. Too cold for me. I sometimes watch "Ice Road Truckers" on TV. Guys driving tractor trailers over frozen lakes at -40F. No way!
I've been outside working in -18° F, and when it's that cold outside everything changes - and not for the better. That butter he's using would be frozen solid, as would the vegetables. Sleeping outside is for the suicidal.
I remember a couple of years ago reading a bushcraft oriented web page, one of the frequent posters stated that according to his experiments, fire reflectors weren't all that effective. His explanation was that rather than heat did not reflect sideways that well, it instead rose into the atmosphere, doing very little good to the camper.
ReplyDeleteHis fellow forum members gave him hell for that (I've camped in sub zero temps many a time and there IS a difference with a reflector). The original poster was stubborn though, and he convinced a few that he may have been correct. They then began to argue what was the optimum distance the reflector had to be away from the fire.
I say reflectors are a big enough deal to make them worthwhile too. For me it isn't even a question. If I am camping in one spot for an extended stay I would put one up.
DeleteI noticed in his comments on his own video he stated that there were grizzly and black bear (both) in the area. That would be pretty unusual as when the grizzly move in the black bear normally move out (or become part of the protein supply for the grizzly bears).
ReplyDeletemy brother and I camped out in -15F in an adirondack lean to. I had a $9.99 sleeping bag rated to 40F. we spent the evening cutting and burning wood. Nearly froze to death, but survived. So this young guy is probably telling the truth,
ReplyDeleteThere's a couple other tells too - that is wet snow with big flakes that is falling. At -30C your snow gets very dry... and when you step on snow that cold...it kinda squeaks in a way that's like fingernails on a chalkboard - it sends chills down your spine just to listen to it...
ReplyDeleteA few good tricks; several flaws that I had fun watching chicakgos go through. That method of melting snow at those temps can cause more problems than solve. Point made by others about temps,snow accurate. No one pointed out wood pile going to bed versus getting up.
ReplyDeleteYup. And at -30… if you have any moisture on your hands… they start sticking to metal….
ReplyDeleteI have read some old stories about the RCMP working in extreme cold, and getting frostbit lungs just from breathing in the cold air. Too cold for me.
ReplyDeleteI sometimes watch "Ice Road Truckers" on TV. Guys driving tractor trailers over frozen lakes at -40F. No way!
Why can't you see his breath?
ReplyDeleteI've been outside working in -18° F, and when it's that cold outside everything changes - and not for the better. That butter he's using would be frozen solid, as would the vegetables. Sleeping outside is for the suicidal.